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General Discussion / Re: prayers
« on: May 14, 2015, 06:45:11 PM »
Real sorry to hear about this...thoughts and prayers for Aaron, Brent and family.


General Discussion / Re: Moment of Silence
« on: April 09, 2015, 04:40:04 PM »
Most unamerican thing I ever had to do!  To make matters worse she left me on a trailer being pulled by a damn Chevrolet! 😢. The friendships, comradery and the smell of racing gas will be missed!  I don't guess it could have ended better.  My last ride in the ole girl was down the track in Moterey, a place I grew up watching pulls and dreaming of doing the same.  Good luck to all in 2015!


General Discussion / Happy Halloween
« on: October 31, 2014, 10:07:25 AM »

General Discussion / Re: Points results as of now....
« on: October 20, 2014, 09:43:13 AM »
May be a dumb question but why were point taken away from some pullers

The rules allow you to "drop" your worse finish.  In some cases that may be a zero if you didn't make one of the points pulls.  Some like it and some don't.  I personally like the option since it provides some flexibility.

General Discussion / Southern Showdown
« on: September 29, 2014, 04:31:55 PM »
Congratulations to Aaron Sponaugle on the win Friday night in the 6200 Outlaw class!  It was good to see everybody and Iam looking forward to rejoining the compitetion next year!


General Discussion / Rockville Pull
« on: September 17, 2014, 04:55:56 PM »
Mountain Brothers,

If anybody wants to come to the Rockville pull AND have plans to go to the Southern Showdown, you are welcome to leave your truck / trailer at my house to save some trouble.  I got plenty of room and security! ;) I am 15 minutes from the Field Days and just three miles off of I 64 (exit 167).  Fords are free and I won't charge the Chevys much... :P


General Discussion / Re: Congratulations
« on: July 30, 2014, 05:51:53 PM »
Good job Tom! 8)

Bedford I think it is a combination of several things that causes these problems.  It is hard to have any kind of consistency with fees, purse, pit access, pulling order, which classes are run etc. when all of these events take place for different reasons / causes.  I have talked to several pullers and different promoters over the years about these same issues and the bottom line is the pullers opinion seems to always be closer to the bottom of the list of priorities than the top.  What I have personally experienced is when you go to a pull that is being promoted by someone with ties to the pulling community you are going to have a pretty good experience, but when the event is part of a fair, festival or some sort of charity you are going to get the big shaft! 

I went to an event a couple of years ago that was put on by a volunteer organization and took my wife and two kids (4 YO & 8 YO at the time).  They charged me and my wife $12 each and $10 each for my kids!!  So that was $44 at the gate and another $20 to pull ($64 Total)!  When I questioned why the pullers were getting rapped at the gate I was told that “the money was for a good cause.”  I wasn’t questioning what they planned on using the money for, but how they were going about getting the money!!

I typically take my golf cart to pulls and I have even been charged a “golf cart fee!”  Another location that I have been to several times always allowed golf carts, but the last time I went I was told that I couldn’t take it off of my trailer.  Well I can’t get my truck off of the trailer without unloading the golf cart first!  So they sent a security officer to my trailer to watch me unload the golf cart, unload my truck and then made me put the golf cart back on the trailer while I pulled.  Another example of an event promoted by a volunteer organization.

I am pretty familiar with the law and the authority law enforcement officers have on private property.  I went to an event one time and a Deputy Sheriff was being paid by the promoter to assist with the event and part of his responsibility was to search vehicles for coolers and to inspect for alcohol.  This would have been fine if the promoter was the one searching or if a private security officer was doing the digging, but a law enforcement officer cannot search your vehicle or closed containers in the vehicle without a warrant or a few other exceptions.  Driving into a truck pull is not one of those other exceptions!

Sometimes it is a lack of communication between the promoter and their staff (people collecting the money) or the promoter and whoever represents the pullers.  For example, one year Dragon Motorsports competitors were told that if they had a Dragon Motorsports membership card they would not have to pay entry fees at the gate of any event at Dragon Motorsports Park (DMP) and other selected locations.  I was never charged at DMP, but was charged at several other events only to find out later that the person taking the money wasn’t told that pullers should not pay an admission charge.  In some cases the negotiation between the promoter and the representative of the pullers about an admission charge never happens or isn’t successful.

A common response from a lot of the pullers when you bring this stuff up is that they are “just glad to have a place to pull.”  None of this stuff will ever change until the pullers get together and develop a louder voice.  The recent movement in Nascar with the owners forming a race team alliance (RTA) is being fueled by a lot of these same issues in that sport.  It’s being publicized as a way to save the teams money, but it boils down to the owners are tired of being run over by the bureaucrats in Nascar.  Seems every sport has its share of money hungry bureaucrats! 

Honestly I think a lot of money changes hands at a truck pull, but not a whole lot of money is being made by anyone.  Ask any promoter and they will tell you that it is a hell of a lot work for very little pay!  By the time you pay for advertisement, facility, sled, track crew, insurance, food, bathrooms (sometimes) there just ain’t much money left for a purse.  But that still doesn’t justify making up for it from the pullers.       

How do you fix it?  Basically you get together, decide what you want (within reason), communicate that to the promoters and other stakeholders.  Either they make the changes with the pullers in mind or nobody shows up to pull!  The first step seems to be the hardest and that is getting all of the pullers onboard.           

My two cents for what it’s worth…


General Discussion / Re: Expo Pull
« on: May 27, 2014, 07:39:40 AM »
Trying to keep up with you guys is a job!

General Discussion / Re: Expo Pull
« on: May 26, 2014, 05:11:43 PM »
Congrats William and Ricky!

Pulling stuff forsale / BBF Bryant Billet Crankshaft
« on: May 20, 2014, 07:15:04 AM »

Pulling stuff forsale / Re: Blue Thunder Iron Heads
« on: May 01, 2014, 06:00:36 PM »

Pulling stuff forsale / Blue Thunder Iron Heads
« on: April 21, 2014, 12:00:40 PM »
Blue Thunder iron heads, raised BBC exhaust flange, 62cc chambers, & Victor 4500 intake.  Heads are complete with valves and springs.  Both are fully ported (405 CFM).  $3500

General Discussion / Nice addition
« on: April 14, 2014, 10:57:31 AM »
Love the the new watering hole A!  Hope to see everybody in Craigsville.

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